[BJ] MAY be wrong, but if he TRULY does believe GSP had intent, then there can be NO QUESTION that he is NOT wrong in bringing this issue to the forefront. The fact that GSP and Jackson can't seem to see this point, is why I take issues with their crediblity. You know you CAN still be innocent and offended, but still not so COVENIENTLY blind as to not be able to see or acknowledge why another person might feel the way they do."
Imo, while it’s not exactly scientific, I’ve found this to be a pretty solid “sniff-proof” test for me in the past in similar situations, and when applied to people I know who’ve also been in similar situations.
In regards to post traumatic stress dissorder? Perfectly understandable. We must of course not act out on such sentiments, but that such rash sentiments DO exist in ALL of us cannot be denited. The difference is those who act out on such sentiments, and those who don’t, those who know right from wrong even after having been stripped to their emotional core. Imo, there’s nothing wrong with such thoughts or sentiments, they DO need to be aired. What’s wrong is not so much wrong, but rather not enough education on such matters. Unless you’ve been there, unless you know what post-traumatic stress dissorder is, and more importantly, know what it means to feel it, to be strapped to a ticking time bomb that never goes off, but only serves to paralyze you in a perpetual cold sweat from here till eternity…then you just don’t know. Airing such sentiments is good. The problem is that most people don’t know, most people haven’t been there, and are thus reduced to only being able to “judge” those who suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder or the lone wolf syndrome or whatever else at a surface level. It doesn’t matter what you’ve been through, or who’s been through more “on paper.” The only “real” comfort is in knowing that someone else “gets” you without saying a word, now THAT is a comfort worth living for.
Imo, condemning rash sentiments as “bad”—a label—does just as much if not MORE harm than simply accepting rash sentiments for what they are…thoughts, an outlet and a release, NOT actual acts. I accept all thoughts, but I do not in this paritcular case (moving back on topic), accept GSP’s “act.” Yes, I believe that’s what he is at this point.
I think Matt Serra said it best, “Everything is a cliché with this guy. Stop reading from the script for once and speak from the heart.”
This was of course after Serra had heard about George’s comments that if it were someone like say Matt Hughes, he would have pulled out with injury…but since it was the lowly Matt Serra, well….
Here is the link: http://ninjashoes.net/forum/archive/index.php/t-17936.html
Here is a link to Serra’s most direct (and as far as I know, only) comments on Greasegate itself. A lot of people have wanted to hear what he had to say about this issue since according to Hughes, he had said something about this in the past, and according to Valentino, someone from his camp had also told them to watch out for this.
It’s weird that Serra seemed a little uncomfortable with the Greasegate thing, I think even shuttling the guys to a more secluded corner before talking about it. To me, his demeanor (obviously after taking into account the obvious and dramatic differences in personality between Sherk, rather plain Jane gray wool sweater and reserved, and “Mr. Joe Pesci”, the joke-cracking Polly want a cracker, “Wise Guy”, Matt Serra) is somewhat eerily similar to Sherk’s when asked to comment about this. Meaning, both seem a bit evasive and uncomfortable, I’m really saying something…but I’m not, type demeanor.
In other words, just my opinion, but I get the feeling that both are basically kind of agreeing with BJ…but are kind of going the whole “third person” route of explaining their stance.
In other words? Like BJ said, fighters are afraid to talk about this publically now because of the fan reaction. I get the feeling that this is more important for the Serra/Sherk types who while well off, are by no means in a position where they’re not concerned about their future marketability and “place” in the UFC. Serra being a new father, and coming a looong injury layoff for one. Sherk already still “hurt” by the steroid stuff, i.e. before he could even say anything on this issue, GSP fans were already shouting him down with why should we EVER listen to what that guy has to say! Yeah, a known steroid user, he should be the LAST one to ever talk about something like this, and yeah…rolls eyes…like we can really “trust” anything this guy has to say.
That whole bit dynamic.
The interesting thing about the interview is that Serra apparently reads MMA boards sometimes too. Like he said, there’s always those one or two dicks in a thread who’ll do…well, we all know how they do.
Serra’s a loud mouth, but at least he’s a loud mouth who wears his emotions on his sleaves. I trust that quality in people more than I do the unflinchingly nice. As “Mr. Nice Guy” himself, and Mr. “You’re the nicest guy I’ve ever met” (God, I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard that one); I’d like to think I’ve learned to differentiate between nice…and otherwise. Learned that nice does not necessarily mean good, and that mean (or a “dick”) does not necessarily mean bad (Hughes, a classic ENTJ if ever there was one).
Personally, I think BJ is an ESTP (Andre Agassi), and GSP an ENTP (the Obama brain/MBTI “type”).
You know you hit the big time when you make a commercial with tiger woods!!! I bet bj cries everytime he watches this!!! lol Good job Georges and best of luck in all tha tyou do!!! GSP Rules!!!!!!!!
Although I'm from Canada and not the U.S, I can't resist posting a comment on here. You look GREAT Georges!! Congratulations on all your amazing achievements!!
Thanks Georges....your U.S. fans miss out on all the good stuff! Last night while watching that terrible Silva vs Laites fight, my friends and I in Florida were chanting G-S-P right along with the fans in Montreal, ha ha.
Cool Georges...I just saw your commercial on television for the first time. I think it was on CBC during the Montreal Boston game, but it may have been TSN as I did check the score of Rangers Capitals. Keep up the good work.
2 Reasons to Grease
Reason 1
To take someone down and ground and pound without worrying about submissions or being tied up by your opponent or held onto.
A lot of people might question
How would greasing help the takedown?
the thing is the grease doesn’t slide because of the shorts.
if the fighters were naked then yes the greasing would be bad for the take down.
Taking someone down is all about beating your opponents hips to the position.
You shoulders do not slip on your opponents shorts when going for the take down
Reason 2
To avoid the ground work, submission attempts, and create scrambles to get back to your feet and keep the fight standing.
I wonder how long it will take for Nuthugging Canadians to Hijack this thread
Even though I have not mentioned the WW champions name once.
Georges St-Pierre (born May 19, 1981), often referred to as GSP, is a French Canadian professional mixed martial artist. He is currently the Welterweight Champion of the UFC, and is ranked as one of the top "Pound for pound" fighters by multiple MMA sources. St-Pierre has been lauded by many media outlets for his skill, and he is currently ranked by multiple MMA publications as the number-one welterweight in the world.
karenjoyce said April 18, 2009
Easy_Rider replied April 21, 2009
Imo, while it’s not exactly scientific, I’ve found this to be a pretty solid “sniff-proof” test for me in the past in similar situations, and when applied to people I know who’ve also been in similar situations.
In regards to post traumatic stress dissorder? Perfectly understandable. We must of course not act out on such sentiments, but that such rash sentiments DO exist in ALL of us cannot be denited. The difference is those who act out on such sentiments, and those who don’t, those who know right from wrong even after having been stripped to their emotional core. Imo, there’s nothing wrong with such thoughts or sentiments, they DO need to be aired. What’s wrong is not so much wrong, but rather not enough education on such matters. Unless you’ve been there, unless you know what post-traumatic stress dissorder is, and more importantly, know what it means to feel it, to be strapped to a ticking time bomb that never goes off, but only serves to paralyze you in a perpetual cold sweat from here till eternity…then you just don’t know. Airing such sentiments is good. The problem is that most people don’t know, most people haven’t been there, and are thus reduced to only being able to “judge” those who suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder or the lone wolf syndrome or whatever else at a surface level. It doesn’t matter what you’ve been through, or who’s been through more “on paper.” The only “real” comfort is in knowing that someone else “gets” you without saying a word, now THAT is a comfort worth living for.
Imo, condemning rash sentiments as “bad”—a label—does just as much if not MORE harm than simply accepting rash sentiments for what they are…thoughts, an outlet and a release, NOT actual acts. I accept all thoughts, but I do not in this paritcular case (moving back on topic), accept GSP’s “act.” Yes, I believe that’s what he is at this point.
I think Matt Serra said it best, “Everything is a cliché with this guy. Stop reading from the script for once and speak from the heart.”
This was of course after Serra had heard about George’s comments that if it were someone like say Matt Hughes, he would have pulled out with injury…but since it was the lowly Matt Serra, well….
Here is the link: http://ninjashoes.net/forum/archive/index.php/t-17936.html
Here is a link to Serra’s most direct (and as far as I know, only) comments on Greasegate itself. A lot of people have wanted to hear what he had to say about this issue since according to Hughes, he had said something about this in the past, and according to Valentino, someone from his camp had also told them to watch out for this.
http://ninjashoes.net/forum/archive/index.php/t-17936.html
It’s weird that Serra seemed a little uncomfortable with the Greasegate thing, I think even shuttling the guys to a more secluded corner before talking about it. To me, his demeanor (obviously after taking into account the obvious and dramatic differences in personality between Sherk, rather plain Jane gray wool sweater and reserved, and “Mr. Joe Pesci”, the joke-cracking Polly want a cracker, “Wise Guy”, Matt Serra) is somewhat eerily similar to Sherk’s when asked to comment about this. Meaning, both seem a bit evasive and uncomfortable, I’m really saying something…but I’m not, type demeanor.
In other words, just my opinion, but I get the feeling that both are basically kind of agreeing with BJ…but are kind of going the whole “third person” route of explaining their stance.
In other words? Like BJ said, fighters are afraid to talk about this publically now because of the fan reaction. I get the feeling that this is more important for the Serra/Sherk types who while well off, are by no means in a position where they’re not concerned about their future marketability and “place” in the UFC. Serra being a new father, and coming a looong injury layoff for one. Sherk already still “hurt” by the steroid stuff, i.e. before he could even say anything on this issue, GSP fans were already shouting him down with why should we EVER listen to what that guy has to say! Yeah, a known steroid user, he should be the LAST one to ever talk about something like this, and yeah…rolls eyes…like we can really “trust” anything this guy has to say.
That whole bit dynamic.
The interesting thing about the interview is that Serra apparently reads MMA boards sometimes too. Like he said, there’s always those one or two dicks in a thread who’ll do…well, we all know how they do.
Serra’s a loud mouth, but at least he’s a loud mouth who wears his emotions on his sleaves. I trust that quality in people more than I do the unflinchingly nice. As “Mr. Nice Guy” himself, and Mr. “You’re the nicest guy I’ve ever met” (God, I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard that one); I’d like to think I’ve learned to differentiate between nice…and otherwise. Learned that nice does not necessarily mean good, and that mean (or a “dick”) does not necessarily mean bad (Hughes, a classic ENTJ if ever there was one).
Personally, I think BJ is an ESTP (Andre Agassi), and GSP an ENTP (the Obama brain/MBTI “type”).
steiny31 said April 18, 2009
berggraham said April 18, 2009
PamalaPalma said April 18, 2009
GSPFAN_01 said April 18, 2009
Farago said April 18, 2009
Farago said April 18, 2009
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Canuck replied April 18, 2009
Luca26 said April 18, 2009
MrsJamesDean said April 18, 2009
Janet_A said April 19, 2009
youknowwho said April 19, 2009
Balquis said April 18, 2009
gspsuperfan said April 19, 2009
Adrienne said April 19, 2009
BrunoSteph said April 19, 2009
emilymaris said April 20, 2009
cantseeme said April 20, 2009
funkywanderer said April 20, 2009
Keep up the good work.
Garfunkle said April 21, 2009
Reason 1
To take someone down and ground and pound without worrying about submissions or being tied up by your opponent or held onto.
A lot of people might question
How would greasing help the takedown?
the thing is the grease doesn’t slide because of the shorts.
if the fighters were naked then yes the greasing would be bad for the take down.
Taking someone down is all about beating your opponents hips to the position.
You shoulders do not slip on your opponents shorts when going for the take down
Reason 2
To avoid the ground work, submission attempts, and create scrambles to get back to your feet and keep the fight standing.
I wonder how long it will take for Nuthugging Canadians to Hijack this thread
Even though I have not mentioned the WW champions name once.
juliew said April 21, 2009